Is this the Hyrum from the old days or recent? Open acceptance of his own hypocrisy? If I were to have to choose between a moral candidate who was a moral but in no way prepared to lead a nation, I would vote for an immoral person who was. He died from camomel poisoning for bilious colic, which could (making this up) have been from magic mushrooms. So, why dont people here want to vote for Romney? The South Carolina primaries closed at 9:00 but Newts marraige will be open all night.. I dont like newt politically. I dont much like much of Romneys current political discourse, but I do recognize him as one of us. But even if he werent Mormon hes not exactly the person who excites the base of the Republican party. -Avoids just punishments Personally, if he wins I really hope moderate, pragmatic Guvn Romney shows up rather than right-wing pandering Romney. Aside from being bff with Joseph and wearing the funky sunglasses, there's not much there to know. And who has the best hair. -Should be excommunicated Welcome to the works of Dr. Hyrum L. Andrus. Theres no one else who can say what I can say. 2017 Purposeful Retirement Workbook & Planner. He loved riding his horses and spending time at his ranch, watching a good movie, visiting with friends, following current events, operating his blower to drive leaves and debris out of his garage and off his walks, eating good food (never without a napkin), and Sunday taco afternoons with children and grandchildren. The Church, the Investment Advisor, and theSEC, Inside the UK's Mormon missionary bootcamp - BBC, Former mayor, LDS bishop gets prison for child sex abuse - Salt Lake Tribune, Mormon Church fined over claim it hid $32bn of investments - BBC, Linda King Newell, Feminist Scholar of Mormon History, Dies at 82 - The New York Times, Mormon church leader uses his faith to spread anti-racist principles - NPR. Apparently he is now dying so good riddance. 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I do believe we tend to be more judgmental of marital infidelity, but my own views have softened somewhat over the years. It meant the world to him. Dont worry about your politics, Marcus, Europe is (non)-breeding itself into utter irrelevance, so who cares? Though the spirits of all men who come to mortality overcame the enticements of Satan and his followers when they resided in the presence of God in their first estate . Smith was born Oct. 16, 1943, in Salt Lake City, and grew up in Honolulu. Its hard to imagine Tuacahn without Hyrum, Kevin Smith said in a statement. Who knows if he was an innocent or complicit in Joe's schemes? Because of his prominence in the community, this confession cost him dearly, including being excommunicated from his church and financial losses to his business. It's clear to me that Smith had a flash of genius that his religious narrative was as good as anything else. HE MARRIED Ruth Pingree, June 5, 1929, in the Salt Lake LDS Temple. Hyrum is one of the only early Church leaders that I gain respect for the more I learn about him. History of the Church, 3:414. Many Mormons watched in morbid fascination during the South Carolina primary as Evangelicals ultimately rallied around the nearly forgotten corpse of Newt Gingrichs campaign. In 1838, the church was renamed the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints". He also loved the American flag and proudly displayed it everywhere it could possibly be displayed. I know that in the case of one family members divorce two decades ago the wife was basically chased from the ward while her husband married a younger woman in the temple weeks after the divorce. He was a reluctant polygamist, but did marry his first wife's sister when her first husband died. Thats why I wont vote for the ego-maniacal troll. That doesnt mean he wont be a good President. The family would also like to thank the nurses from Dixie Hospice for the excellent service they provided. It is about this relationship with God that drives a real believer of Jesus to do the things that most churches will try to impose on their practitioners such as the excommunication from the church and then some process of prescribed accomplishments to get back into a good standing. One more thing on Romney, I may vote for him. It seems most reacted very strongly against Huntsmans lax Mormon practice and identity. & Hyrum Smith & John Whitmer & Samuel H. Smith. He was appointed Second Counselor in the church's First Presidency in November 1837. He is preceded in death by his daughter, Sharwan Smith; 2 granddaughters: Shilo and Abby Shurtliff; sisters: Ruth Silver, Ida Smith, Lynn Partridge; and his parents, Joseph and Ruth Smith. He was born October 16, 1943 to Joseph Fielding and Ruth Pingree Smith in Salt Lake City, Utah. Just the fact that Romneys campaign in Florida was, statistically, the most negative in the history of US elections is mind-boggling. I think Mormons strive to raise the bar, which leads to expecting more of leaders, less tolerance for sin, and then when there is humility and contrition, more tolerance to forgive and sympathize similar to your reaction of Hyrum Smiths story. He was 76. The entire Smith household were set to profit if Joe's gold bible business took off. He died of calomel poisoning aka mercury poisoning http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1070962/. davenport funeral home crystal lake, il obituaries Who got the vision? * International Entrepreneur of the Year by Brigham Young Universitys Marriott School of management in 1993. Hyrum Andrus explains all of this very well, here is a link. I have seen it go both ways and I am not convinced that one is more prevalent than the other. . Thats the whole point of repentance. I agree with the first part of your comment, Thomas, but I dont agree with the last part. I hope were not all voting for who is more realistically flawed to represent us, I hope we are voting for the best leader to lead us. He was born October 16, 1943 to Joseph Fielding and Ruth Pingree Smith in Salt Lake City, Utah. That just seems to be the knee-jerk reaction based on our culture. After his marriage to Gail, the newlyweds returned to Fort Sill and Hyrum attended the Pershing Missile Officers Course. Do we reject repentance that we consider insufficiently stringent? #29 Yeah, Thomas, I can see that, unfortunately. For decades he strove to empower people to effectively govern their personal and professional lives. Smith attended Dartmouth College in his teens. I also wanted to say Im with still confused on comment #1- in that my personal distaste for Newt Gingrich is unrelated to his extramarital affairs. He graduated from Brigham Young University in 1971, with a degree in business management. Of course, Mitts inconsistencies over time are troubling to me, too, for other reasons. etc. And I have seen them return to full faith and fellowship, with marriages that seem stronger than they were before the infidelities. Smith returned to the fold that he had to make some real changes in his life. -Is dishonest [7] Taylor was struck by several bullets but survived with the help of Richards. Also if one critiques Romney for not being an economic conservative that goes in spades for Santorum. Over the years, Hyrum has received numerous honors and community service awards, including: * Silver Beaver Award from the Boy Scouts of America, * 1992 SRI Gallup Hall of Fame and Man of the Year Award. Funeral services are set for Tuesday, Dec. 3, at noon, at the Ivins Stake Center, 260 E. 1060 South, Ivins. Yes yes, theres the doctrine&covenants section where were told to vote for honest and wise leaders, but were not living in a theocracy where morality is the ultimate reason for choosing a president. Hyrum Smith (February 9, 1800 June 27, 1844) was an American religious leader in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the original church of the Latter Day Saint movement. Signed: Christian Whitmer & Hiram Page & Jacob Whitmer & Joseph Smith, Sen. Peter Whitmer, Jun. Board member Great Salt Lake Council, Boy Scouts American, since 1982, Explorers, since 1982. The company sold its consumer products unit, which makes the Franklin Planner, to a private equity firm in 2008. I will admit his adultery and its details do weight heavily in my consideration. Hyrum Smith Ink on paper, Sutcliffe Maudsley, circa 1844. He was the older brother of the movement's founder, Joseph Smith, and was killed with him in a lynching at a jail They went on to raise six children and have 24 grandchildren. There will be overflow facilities available in the adjacent ward house. I know plenty of Mormons who liked Newt although most of them came of age after Newts meltdown in the 90s. Read this book using Google Play Books app on your PC, android, iOS devices. During his residence there, he served as foreman of the quarry providing stone for the Kirtland Temple. Join Hyrum Smith, one of the most influential thinkers on modern time management, as he shares insights on productivity from his 50-year career. So the Church does NOTHING, the wife keeps her mouth shut, because why bother telling anyone in leadership about it? Maybe its as much Newts style as his past that repulses Mormons. Hyrum W. Smith, the Utah entrepreneur who created the Franklin Planner and made it a businesspersons must-carry item, has died. He could say anything he wanted. Hyrum Smith (1800-1844) was the older brother of the Prophet Joseph. He was quite upset by Newts behavior during his marriages. If the GOP race were down to the three candidates who are not Romney (if Romney was out of it), Gingrich would be a real possibility as the GOP nominee, and thats frightening enough to me to give me regular nightmares. They do. He is very proud of the impact that the Franklin Day Planner has had on hundreds of thousands of people. He cavorts with top Democrats while declaring political war against them as if it never happened. I got into a similar discussion with some Evangelical aquaintances shortly after the Casey Anthony verdict. Good post, and a lot of interesting questions. Archived. Judging by the negativity of your post, I think its clear what kind of campaign youd run if you had $20million to spend to get yourself elected as the judgingist negativity detecting commenter evar. StillConfused theres a link in the OP about the story of Hyrum Smith, founder of Franklin Planners, and his adultery & trip back to the church. Song. -Hypocritical Part 10. Also, consider this: All three *witnesses* were eventually excommunicated from the Mormon church. ), great post. A visitation will be held Monday, Dec. 2, from 6 to 8 p.m. at Tuacahn Amphitheater, 1100 N. Tuacahn Drive, Ivins. I don't have a link, but I think those come from Wm. Reading between the lines, there was a general fear of pregnancy of supposedly unmarried women who might be impregnated because of plural marriage arrangements. For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall much be required; and to whom the Lord has committed much, of him will men ask the more.